"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
09/08/2019 at 23:45 • Filed to: None
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"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
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It’s been a good run. G’night, all.
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For Sweden
> Just Jeepin'
09/09/2019 at 00:17 |
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His theory is that over the next few decades, the number of large Western-style democracies around the globe will continue to shrink, and those that remain will become shells of themselves.
“Continue” is holding up this sentence like Atlas.
Other than the Russian Federation, which arguably has never had a free election, which large Western-style democracy has disappeared?
If “Elites” lost control of institutions, they were democratically elected out.
wafflesnfalafel
> Just Jeepin'
09/09/2019 at 00:40 |
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yeah... click bait, but that’s what sells, even in educational forums. . My local gov’t really is working quite well, state less so largely because of the loss of a competent progressive middle which we used to have historically. . Less gets accomplished and people are more easily swayed by voter initiatives pushed by SIGs. I think a large part of the national level upheaval and polarization is simply lack of involvement. You talk to fervent , polarized folks on either side and 80 % of the time they have no idea what they are talking about, (but gosh darn it, they have been wronged and those other people are wack jobs!) Apathetic, uninformed populaces make lower quality decisions regardless of your individual preference on abortion , nation debt, ecological issues or geo-political relationships... So people, pay attention! :)
VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
> Just Jeepin'
09/09/2019 at 00:50 |
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High level question, just for academic purposes and has no intended tie in to anything else that’s actually happening.
On a technical and literal level, the government style of the US portrayed in Idiocracy still seems to conform to the definition of a representative democracy (a republic, or thereabouts. )
However, my question is, is the communally accepted intention behind a democracy served by a country running in that fashion?
Discuss.
(I personally think that there are like 12 extremely smart computers in the background keeping everyone alive regardless of how much Brawndo goes into the lawns.)
MrSnrub
> Just Jeepin'
09/09/2019 at 02:02 |
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I don’t really buy it. People have all sorts of cognitive biases, but that’s always been the case, yet democracy developed anyway.
At the same time, I don’t think complacency is warranted either. Democracy is under threat in many places. In Europe, Hungary has essentially become a one-party state, and Poland has made disturbing moves in the same direction. Brazil has been subjected to a soft coup in the form of the Car Wash scandal which installed Bolsonaro, probably the closest thing to a fascist in charge of a major country today. In the US, the Republican Party has essentially abandoned parliamentary politics and is chipping at the edges of the franchise, though they haven’t yet been able to effect any permanent democratic backsliding. So all in all, there is plenty to worry about. But at the same time, the situation is not nearly as bad as it was in the 1930s, and if we recovered from that, we can recover from this. Hopefully without a world war this time though, obviously.
Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen
> For Sweden
09/09/2019 at 02:47 |
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Well the UK’s doing it’s best to turn itself into a series of small western-style democracies - does that count?
Jayvincent
> MrSnrub
09/09/2019 at 20:28 |
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you said it. hopefully without a world war... or a “ civil” one. Shouldn’t that be called a “domestic” war or a continental war to distinguish it from a world war?
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Jayvincent
> Just Jeepin'
09/09/2019 at 20:32 |
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most of the alt-sci-fi from the last couple of decades says the next governing bodies will be multi-national global corporations, which will start out by re-enacting feudalism and work their way up to democracy eventually. Given that Trump is both a megalomaniac and a corporation; Apple is both a corporation and a cult; and G oogle controls what we think, see and share, I’d say we are well on our way!